Updated: Let’s Play a Game Called “Why Did They Do That?”, Featuring the Recently Departed Players.

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This is what happens when people go and give me ideas. Whether that’s good or bad’s a matter of taste, I guess. 😉

OK, this is how it’ll work. I’m going to sticky three comments, one each for Ford, Houston, and Berry for your idea for their departure, and I’ll periodically edit them into the list for each one.

N. B. Please keep discussion of the suggestions in the general comments and not in those sub-threads, though, because I don’t want to have to hunt through discussion in search of suggestions.

Once enough reasons are entered, I’ll convert that to a poll and y’all can vote on it, with one twist. Cap space is common to all three of them, so that’s automatically applied. This means you’ll be voting for reasons to add to that, and you can vote for as many of the reasons as you think apply. When the dust settles, we can look at the results.

Reasons:

Ford:  

  1. CAP 
  2. Availability (injury)
  3. Scheme/Fit in new D
  4. Maximized trade value while still do-able.
  5. Because the other two were being cut/Rebuilding
  6. Not versatile enough

Berry:

  1. CAP
  2. Availability (Injury)
  3. Availability (Health (i.e. cancer and the bone spur))
  4. Age/physical decline
  5. Scheme/Fit in new D
  6. Because the other two were being cut/Rebuilding

Houston:  

  1. CAP  
  2. Availability (injury)
  3. Age/physical decline
  4. Scheme/Fit in new D
  5. Because the other two were being cut/Rebuilding

Author’s note: I took the liberty of applying any suggestion that was only made for one player and added it to the other lists it applies to. Additionally, I broke “Health” into two separate categories because cancer is not an injury and a ruptured Achilles is not an illness, no matter how many people insist on conflating the two. A bit on the fussy side, I know, but words mean things, and besides my game, my rules. 😉

The suggestion box is still open, folks.

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Anthony Stratton

I’m hoping “he got naked pictures of Veach’s mama” pops up somewhere in here…

Anthony Stratton

Post Reasons they Cut Berry as replies to this comment:

CHIEFSandSABRES

Mismanagement of injuries/time for mutual separation (best interest of both parties)

Team Player
Team Player

Lack of faith he could ever play again. Money is just for the timing.

Big Chief
Big Chief

I think that must be the whole thing. I think it’s like with Charles. The Chiefs think he’s done but he doesn’t. Based on history I would give tend to give Berry the benefit of the doubt, but this foot thing has been one of the most perplexing injury dramas I can recall.

workingmansdead

This is correct.

MidKan Chiefs Lifer
MidKan Chiefs Lifer

Injuries

4 partial games in 2 years.

He is getting slower a lot if the AFCCG shows anything.

Team Player
Team Player

(Completely tongue in cheek) because BV wanted Tony to know the feeling was mutual

sydenham
sydenham

Age and speed.

BuckeyeMike
BuckeyeMike

Too much risk due to his contract

Fozzyboyd
Fozzyboyd

Becase he was the highest paid safety and has missed about a 1/3 of the games in his career, including nearly every game of the last two years. 89 of a possible 144 (Yup, Berry has missed 55 games in his career)
Because he’s now on the wrong side of 30 and if his play last year is any indication he’s not the player he was
Because the day to day was past comical. It was reported that he saw a foot specialiest after the season and was told he could play, its just a pain management situation which is what they were told all year. If nothings changed and he couldn’t handle the pain management last year, what’s different going forward? Anyone have the expectation he’s playing 16 games next year?

What it was not: because of the person he is or what he has actually accomplished personally or professionally. That had nothing to do with it, pure business decision.

Mahomesisgreat
Mahomesisgreat

Too oft injured for his salary.

Lars
Lars

They went ahead and cut him? I thought that decision was day to day?

Panzer85
Panzer85

They finally felt it was the right thing to do in their spirit.comment image

tsv0728
tsv0728

Recent cuts afforded them the cap space to take on Berrys hit. Since you’re tearing it down anyone, and you can now afford to mitigate the risk his contract carries…do it. Just do it.

BigRed
BigRed

Injuries. Day to Day. When he did play, he wasn’t the same Berry. Time to get younger and healthier at the safety position.

probablyamistake
probablyamistake

Mysterious injury, no choice

SuperMegaChief
SuperMegaChief

Because he shot a man in Reno just to watch him die.

HawaiiFiveOh
HawaiiFiveOh

I heard he joined ISIS.

stjoechief
stjoechief

Conflating the cancer and ruptured Achilles: there is no way to know what the long term tissue effects of chemotherapy are in professional athletes. Those are nasty drugs and lymphoma regimens in particular often include high doses of steroids (not anabolic steroids but have definite effects on body composition). He’s had injuries that caused him to miss most of two of the three seasons since he came back from the cancer. The possibility has to be considered that he is more prone to injury, especially tendon or ligament injuries, due to the chemotherapy he got.

Anthony Stratton

Post Reasons they Cut Houston as replies to this comment:

CHIEFSandSABRES

scheme fit

Team Player
Team Player

Broken spark plug in his motor, decline in effectiveness after injury, money. In his prime he would have fit the scheme as a SAM and could have subbed as DE. But Houston today is not in his prime

MidKan Chiefs Lifer
MidKan Chiefs Lifer

Although I don’t completely Buy in with with it I think one reason is don’t fit the new scheme.

Injury history.

Other than that it has to be all cap.

sydenham
sydenham

Age and speed.

BuckeyeMike
BuckeyeMike

His lack of motivation, age, and cost

Big Chief
Big Chief

2. – Cap
3. – Cap
I think Houston was almost exclusively about the inability to get to agree on what the compensation level should be.

Mahomesisgreat
Mahomesisgreat

Too unproductive for his salary.

Lars
Lars

Way too expensive for what little he had left in the tank

tsv0728
tsv0728

1 year early is better than 1yr late. Especially with that cap hit.

probablyamistake
probablyamistake

This is the only comment in favor of releasing Houston that makes sense^^^^^

BigRed
BigRed

Injuries. Seemed to take a lot of plays off. Not the same guy after the big contract. Refusal to restructure a contract he wasn’t living up to.

Panzer85
Panzer85

He’s got no time for football because he’s gotta take on crooked cops, drug lords, and sleazy informers all day and every night.

Wait, that’s not right. Who am I thinking of? Oh, yeah… Shaft! Honest mistake.

KCChef
KCChef

” He’s A Mean Mutha – SHAFT ! …”

SuperMegaChief
SuperMegaChief

Because he cut the “Do Not Remove under Penalty of Law” tag off his mattress.

Anthony Stratton

Post Reasons they Traded Ford as replies to this comment:

CHIEFSandSABRES

draft pick acquired.

Team Player
Team Player

Fit, questionable consistency, draft pick, money

MidKan Chiefs Lifer
MidKan Chiefs Lifer

Got a better draft pick than if we just let him walk this year with no tag.

injury history he’s missed a lot of games, back problems never go away.

Scheme fit

sydenham
sydenham

Versatility.

BuckeyeMike
BuckeyeMike

One trick pony and cost and risk

Big Chief
Big Chief

2. – Availability/Durability (health)
3. – Flexibility (scheme)
I think there were concerns about Ford’s durability and whether he was able to be play multiple positions that I suspect are going to be required going forward.

Mahomesisgreat
Mahomesisgreat

Never was that great. Playoff game.

Lars
Lars

Because you don’t pay your situational pass rusher (his only home in a 4-3) $15m!

BigRed
BigRed

1 good season and that was in a contract year. Where was he prior to that? Not worth it for the Chiefs to spend the money on him that the 49ers did. I’d be pissed if they gave him that contract.

probablyamistake
probablyamistake

No comment

Panzer85
Panzer85

That’s for the best. I’m afraid that if I commented on the release of Ford, I might go to far and cross the line.

SuperMegaChief
SuperMegaChief

Because he didn’t rewind his VHS tapes before returning them to the store.

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upamtn

Girl Scout Cookies … nobody knows this, but that’s what the Chiefs got in compensation for Houston

for Ford they got Girl Scout Cookies AND a future 2nd Round Draft Pick

for Berry they have to pay for Girl Scout Cookies for the next 2 years

Nasrani
Nasrani

I think we’re overlooking perhaps the most obvious answer. Whether it’s a primary reason or not is debatable, but it’s perhaps the most obvious:

The Chiefs are transitioning (back) to a 4-3 defense, and a good number of the players we let go – in addition to their monstrous cap hits – were probably the wrong size for a 4-3, in addition to having a not-quite-correct skill set. Sure, rushing the passer is good, but each position in a 4-3 has different requirements than that of a 3-4.

Nevermind, this theory has already been batted around, and I was late to the party (as per usual).