Morning Huddle – Chiefs score elite safety, intend to sign Tyrann Mathieu to 3-year deal

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Chiefs news for 12 March 2019

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Tyrann Mathieu means Chiefs no longer have to count on Eric Berry | ESPN

He comes at a considerable cost. His $14 million average annual salary is higher than the $13 million per season the Chiefs gave to Berry two years ago. But his addition could be the first step in returning some respectability to the Chiefs’ defense. The Chiefs had Mathieu as the highest-rated safety available in free agency, ahead of Earl Thomas and Landon Collins.

Chiefs score elite safety, intend to sign Tyrann Mathieu to 3-year deal | The Kansas City Star

By adding Mathieu, the Chiefs create a formidable safety tandem between the 26-year-old and strong safety Eric Berry. Mathieu, who racked up 70 tackles, three sacks and two interceptions in his lone season with Houston, gives the Chiefs an elite defender in the middle of the field — something the team lacked in the 2018 season.

Kansas City Chiefs: What Carlos Hyde signing means | KC Kingdom

First off, as far as free agents go, this more than likely means that Chiefs fans can say their good-byes to both Charcandrick West and Spencer Ware. Hyde will take over Ware’s role in the offense and Darryl Williams or a rookie running back will likely round out the Chiefs running back rotation. This leaves the Chiefs with no need for Ware and West.

Sources: Morse going to Bills for 4 years, $44.5M | ESPN

Former Kansas City Chiefs center Mitch Morse intends to sign what is expected to be a four-year, $44.5 million contract with the Buffalo Bills, a source told ESPN’s Adam Schefter.

Morse, 26, joined the Kansas City Chiefs as a second-round draft pick (49th overall) from Missouri in 2015. He immediately became a starter and opened each of the 52 games, regular season and playoffs, he played in for Kansas City.

Patrick Mahomes shot around with Dirk Nowitzki after Chiefs’ basketball ban | For The Win

While Mahomes’ contract bans an array of high-risk activities like hang-gliding, riding motorcycles and skydiving, the basketball ban likely refers to competitive basketball.

He’s not allowed to play pickup basketball games at a gym with strangers, but the Chiefs will probably live with Mahomes bricking a bunch of 3s with Dirk watching and nobody playing defense.

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upamtn

Tyrann Mathieu … ok, that’s a good thing

now can we ditch EB? oh, wait … we don’t save anything

SCKSChief
SCKSChief

Could this be a benefit to KC?

SCKSChief
SCKSChief

Which to believe, which to believe..

KCChef
KCChef

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TNCHIEFS
TNCHIEFS

Interesting article on which teams get the most value for their cap dollars. Chiefs come in at 5. Also, shows why Houston was released.

Which NFL teams do the best job of spending their money?

STL_Chiefs Fan
STL_Chiefs Fan

Theoretically, could the Chiefs pull back the franchise tag on Dee Ford and make him a free agent? If so, would that count for the draft pick compensation or would that be the same as them releasing him?

Tarkus

They can definitely pull it at any time before he signs it, but I don’t know the answer to the other question.

SCKSChief
SCKSChief

I would guess that it would make him a FA…but I cannot be sure.

BoJest
BoJest

If the Chiefs pulled the tag Ford would be a FA. As for the comp pick I’d think the signing of the Honey Badger would erase that pick.

SCKSChief
SCKSChief

Then KC would have Morse’s comp…and hopefully Nelson’s.

SCKSChief
SCKSChief

Haha…poor Denver.

go_saleaumua
go_saleaumua

Damn, that almost makes Honey Badger look affordable.

Anyone else old enough to remember when safeties were getting one year, 1 million dollar contract offers? My name’s not Pepperidge Farm, but I remember….

Also, fuck Denver. I hope they’re forced to re-sign Darian Stewart in shame

Tarkus

So Andy Heck helped get another guy PAID, yet some still think he sucks as an OL coach.

SCKSChief
SCKSChief

Still mad about how slowly he adjusted to what NE was doing in the AFCCG.

Tarkus

Fair enough. I was referring more to people who thinks he sucks coaching and teaching players, though.

go_saleaumua
go_saleaumua

I’m right here, Tark.

And while I’m not going to say that I’m a fan of his coaching… I have been pleasantly surprised at his teaching skills the more I have watched him & his lines.

My opinion was based on what his lines did in Jacksonville. As his lines here grow and evolve, I am willing to grow & evolve my taek on him, accordingly.

I don’t decide coaches suck in a heart beat, but I don’t decide they’re awesome in a heart beat either. Make sense?

Tarkus

You’ll take my +1 and like it!

SCKSChief
SCKSChief

Officially stuck with Ford now…right?

probablyamistake
probablyamistake

Houston’s gone, we need somebody. Would much rather have JH50 though.

SCKSChief
SCKSChief

I don’t think Ford fits what KC wants to do.

BoJest
BoJest

I would think Ford would be praying for a trade. If the Chiefs go 4-3 and he doesn’t really fit in well (will have to see) then he’ll lose a lot of value. His best hope is to be traded to a 3-4 team.

go_saleaumua
go_saleaumua

I think he CAN fit, we will just have to alter what we do up front a little bit. Hes more of a LEO than a true 43 end & I’m not sure that’s the front design Spags was looking for. We’ll see I guess.

I”m still of a mind if Houston was willing to restructure, which he wasn’t per paylor…he’d be here as DE & Ford would already be gone.

/shrug

Sucks, but….not a lot I can do about it

probablyamistake
probablyamistake

When did we release Mitch Morse? Not sure I like that at all. Man I need to pay more attention.

BuckeyeMike
BuckeyeMike

Way too expensive

probablyamistake
probablyamistake

Seems like protecting Patrick should be an absolute priority. Mitch does have a concussion issue, that must be the reason they let him walk.

sydenham
sydenham

Schwarz and Fish plus Devey/draft pick/Justin Senior/Ryan Hunter on the outside. LDT, Reiter, Erving, Wylie and McKenzie inside.

BoJest
BoJest

Devey is a FA so there’s a question whether they re-sign him on not.

sydenham
sydenham

Agree. Seeing the article Sporting referenced below re Chiefs giving McKenzie practise snaps at center, I’m now thinking if the Chiefs use a draft pick on O line it will be a tackle not a center.

sydenham
sydenham

And yet… KM seems more suited to guard.

KCChef
KCChef

Soooo… ” His Natural Position ” ? … : )

sydenham
sydenham

DT iirc.

go_saleaumua
go_saleaumua

He didn’t get released, he was a free agent.

SCKSChief
SCKSChief

Dammit.

SCKSChief
SCKSChief

This mean KC stuck with Ford?

EAFOX
EAFOX

Still have the 49ers to trade with.

SCKSChief
SCKSChief

They just spent all their money on Kwon Alexander.

EAFOX
EAFOX

OK – who still has the money and the picks?

SCKSChief
SCKSChief

Cleveland. LOL

KCChef
KCChef

& the GrayDuhs … : (

Team Player
Team Player

Still the smoke out there about Ford plus a second for Ramsey. What does Ramsey’s contract situation look like?

SCKSChief
SCKSChief

Real smoke, or Dirkness smoke?

Team Player
Team Player

Hard to say. May be a bunch of people quoting people quoting his guess.

I’m not sure it makes sense to Jax tbh. They just gave up Fowler because they’re crowded on the edge

sydenham
sydenham

It’s the silly season, the what-ifs are mesmerizing. If they could pull this off then wow, but I’m not sure what impact that’d have on new contracts/extensions for Jones and Hill.

sydenham
sydenham

Currently 4 years $23,351,000 expiring in ‘21 with all but pocket change guaranteed, per Spotrac.

Team Player
Team Player

That’s perfect. Enough he won’t sit but not enough to feed his hunger. Two years of prove it and then we move on. Please let that rumor become truth

ElPasoJason
ElPasoJason

What a day! Honey Badger to KC. I wanted him to come to KC since he was drafted. I’m excited!

Now, just pick up Ramsey and trade up for an elite Mike LB and a pass rusher and I’m good.

After that just OL, TE and more DBs to grow as they pop up.

I have to admit, I kinda like Veach’s aggression. It also kinda scares me.

If he sees a player he wants, he goes amd gets them. At some point its going to have to be less about FA and far more about the draft, but lets win a Superb Owl before we take our foot of the gas in FA.

Mahomesisgreat
Mahomesisgreat

I have liked Veach from day one. He seems aggressive enough and is always looking for better players anywhere he can find them.

Chiefsfan115
Chiefsfan115

What a great day. Now let’s release Eric Berry.

CHIEFSandSABRES

Nah he is here to stay, along with Dee Ford

upamtn

Ford is the one who MIGHT be traded …

CHIEFSandSABRES

Day 2. Steven Nelson market going to “heat up” lol

SCKSChief
SCKSChief

Get that pay day, Steve. That way KC gets that comp back!

go_saleaumua
go_saleaumua

Nelson market heating up? Eww…

That’s not the kind of heating up I like, I was always told to use some kind of lotion to prevent that from happening.

CHIEFSandSABRES

Haha!

SCKSChief
SCKSChief

Bold strategy by the Texans to lose Mathieu to themselves…

https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1105443026086830080

KC Dude (A.K.A Zif)

Well… The Chiefs used to be the Texans, so…

MidKan Chiefs Lifer
MidKan Chiefs Lifer

Oh I’m sure it was just a sly reference to the Chiefs humble beginnings as the Dallas Texans

Cheat Code
Cheat Code

It’s a Freudian slip that reveals their desire to be the Chiefs and also have Patrick Mahomes as their starting QB.

EAFOX
EAFOX

Interesting that the only Chiefs free agent to get his name called was Mitch Morse. Wonder how many of them we might be bringing back into the fold.

sydenham
sydenham

So, Austin Reiter’s Job to lose, plus two centers held over from the practise squad plus Cam Erving just in case. Unless the Chiefs like what they have in one of those two guys they’ll need to target Center in the later rounds of the draft. Not sure I have total confidence in Reiter, but with Schwarz, LDT, Erving/Wylie and Fish he’s in good company.

EAFOX
EAFOX

We do have a plethora of back up centers on the roster. I did mention yesterday that my fantasy lineup for the Chiefs would have the massive McKenzie at center with Wylie and LDT at the guard positions. Reiter is the incumbent but Chiefs might take a sniff at center in the draft.

Team Player
Team Player

Sí, El Guapo. We do have a plethora

EAFOX
EAFOX

Funny but corny man film.

sydenham
sydenham

Has KcKenzie been getting reps at Center? I thought he was being groomed as a guard, but Andy does like versatile o linemen. I’m assuming him and Wylie will be the guards in a couple of years. I like what they have in LDT and Erving has not been a bad signing, and I think the Doc is signed through ‘22, so I’m thinking Center and or tackle of the future in the later rounds.

EAFOX
EAFOX

Moving him to center is my idea, not theirs.

Texas Chief
Texas Chief

Having a massive tall guy at center is not usually a good thing.
The center has to squat down deep into a knee bend to get low for the QB taking a snap under center.
If not, the center has to be looking back just a moment before the snap…and using his arm motion to toss the ball backwards under his legs to a QB in a shotgun.

Both of those things mean that your center is much more prone to being pushed backwards at the instant of the snap. It’s something that all centers have to learn to overcome. Guys that are huge (especially tall) have the further disadvantage that they cannot (because of the reasons above) instantly get underneath the pad level of the opponent to gain leverage in their block and stand up the oncoming rusher.

That’s why the center on most teams is the shortest guy on the line of scrimmage. Being a bit shorter/smaller helps offset the disadvantages by at least giving the center the best chance to have a low pad level at the instant of the snap.

sydenham
sydenham

KM: 6’3, 320, per nfl.com. Didn’t know he was that tall.

MidKan Chiefs Lifer
MidKan Chiefs Lifer

Morse got pretty good bank for a guy with that many concussions.

Team Player
Team Player

The Browns scare me (can’t remember the last time I said that).

Sitting on a ton of cap space and avoided splurging in the first wave of FA.

EAFOX
EAFOX

This could be the year that they win their division – Cincy is crap, Pittsburgh is on the down slide with Big Ben, and the Ravens have a quarterback that cannot pass, have lost Suggs, and are probably going to be outbid for Mosley.

Savagerider
Savagerider

They did lose mosley. Jets have him

EAFOX
EAFOX

Did not know that was official.

SCKSChief
SCKSChief

$17M per. Wow.

go_saleaumua
go_saleaumua

I would not be paying that money for mosley, and I think hes a hell of an inside linebacker.

Cheat Code
Cheat Code

I don’t get it. Hitchens is a fan tho.

IrezumiChief
IrezumiChief

They lost Weddle too. Not sure if that’s a big deal or not but it’s another piece of their D that isn’t there now.

EAFOX
EAFOX

Forgot about Weddle – tough piece to lose on defense. Sounds like a team in salary cap hell that tried to save up to keep Mosley.

workingmansdead

Clear NFC North favorite.

jmgunn0124
jmgunn0124

Dang. I think Houston lost their whole secondary lol

Berserker
Berserker

Maybe they can afford an offense now.

go_saleaumua
go_saleaumua

What, that last second trade for Thomas didnt put them in the SB?? Those Texans fans I was talking to lied to me…

Mahomesisgreat
Mahomesisgreat

I’m still hearing Watson is better than Mahomes, Texans fans are laughable.

EAFOX
EAFOX

I believe three starters – one they had cut – Johnson, Kareem Jackson to Denver at 11 million a year, and the Honey Badger – which is the only one they fought to keep.

ArrowSpread
ArrowSpread

Lil orgasmic, the idea of having both Berry AND Tyrann back there..

Berry ain’t gon be healthy tho. Is it OK to cry? 😭😭

EAFOX
EAFOX

Doubt if Berry is going to be on the roster – I think the Chiefs might be willing to eat the dead money to move on from the contract. Would love to see a healthy Berry stay.

Berserker
Berserker

Why cut him? To save $1.5 million?

EAFOX
EAFOX

I am just getting a sense that the Chiefs are ready to move on from him. Hope I am dead wrong and Berry comes back in All Pro form.

ArrowSpread
ArrowSpread

I agree with Zerk.. No way he’s getting cut for a measly 1.5. Heel be here taking up a roster spot.

EAFOX
EAFOX

Was reading that the Chiefs could free up about 9 million in cap space if Berry is a post June 1 designated cut and that over 7 million becomes guaranteed if on the roster by Friday.

Tarkus

Yep. There are definitely legit reasons to cut him before Friday, but if they don’t do it by then, there would be no reason to do so.

Cheat Code
Cheat Code

Right. Should also be repeated that the 9 million of cap room doesn’t come into effect until June 1st in this scenario. That helps with money for signing draft picks, signing extensions, in season signings and signing other teams’ post June cuts, but won’t help with the majority of free agency.

Tarkus

It helps with free agency in that you can spend right up against the cap, knowing you’re gonna have that free space later. So it helps some, even if just indirectly.

Cheat Code
Cheat Code

Absolutely. I see some bargain vet CBs that are going to be available this offseason and we should probably grab one.

Berserker
Berserker

And that would get them $8 million dead money next season, so /shrug.

About the same cap space/savings across the last two years of Mahomes’ cheap era, either way.

Cheat Code
Cheat Code


So this is very interesting.

sydenham
sydenham

Nice way with words.

ArrowSpread
ArrowSpread

You too, apparently

CHIEFSandSABRES

I see what you did there!

sydenham
sydenham

Morning glory, waking up knowing TM on board.