Morning Huddle – Chiefs release veteran linebacker Justin Houston, free up $14 million in cap space

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Chiefs release veteran linebacker Justin Houston, free up $14 million in cap space | The Kansas City Star

By parting ways with Houston, the Chiefs will save $14 million in cap space, while still carrying $7.1 million in dead money.

Ultimately, the Chiefs decided the best way to make the team better was by parting ways with Houston. Though Houston is coming off a solid season where he recorded 36 total tackles, nine sacks and one interception, his hefty contract and age significantly diminished his trade value. Houston signed a six-year, $101 million contract in 2015.

Chiefs Release Linebacker Justin Houston | Chiefs.com

“Over the last eight seasons we’ve had the ability to watch Justin grow into a leader on and off the playing field,” Chiefs Chairman and CEO Clark Hunt said. “His passion helped him become one the most successful pass rushers in franchise history. We appreciate his contributions to our team and community and he’ll always be considered a part of the Chiefs family.”

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“This is the 49th annual event, and it’s hard to believe it’s been 49 years,” said Chiefs Chairman and CEO Clark Hunt. “My dad got the idea to start the banquet after our Super Bowl IV victory – that was really the catalyst for it. It’s a great opportunity for our organization and the city of Kansas City to congratulate and say thank you to the coaches and players who make the NFL special. That’s what tonight is all about.”

Updated look at Chiefs RB situation following signing of Carlos Hyde | Chiefs Wire

Damien Williams will enter the 2019 season as the unquestioned starter for the Chiefs. His contributions down the stretch allowed for the Chiefs high-powered offense to not miss a beat following the loss of their two top running backs. That same in-season play earned an extension with the Chiefs which keeps Williams in Kansas City through the 2020 season. During the playoffs he accounted 250 yards and four touchdowns over the course of two games. He also made Chiefs’ franchise history in the process. The Chiefs have only scratched the surface with Williams. He’s only been the starter for five games, including the playoffs and has plenty of room to grow in this offense.

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Tarkus

Welp.

Cheat Code
Cheat Code

Dodged a bullet with that contract tbh. Lot of talent out there @ safety.

upamtn

sorry, but it’s difficult for me to say “Thank You” to Justin Houston … considering his contract was incredibly bloated, and even releasing him costs the team a good amount of money

we should thank him for costing the team so much money that it came to this turn of events? even a little bit of “sure, I can take a million less” here and there counts for a lot these days

Tarkus

I guess you missed his first four years when he was way underpaid for how he performed.

upamtn

performance pay … that’s the solution

pay a certain amount in “base salary” and at end of season pay whatever is earned … X dollars per tackle, per sack, etc

Tarkus

So you want guys putting personal stats above team needs.

Nothing wrong with the current system. You win some and you lose some.

Big Chief
Big Chief

I’m bracing myself for Houston going to the Raiders. It seems like a perfect Raiders move.

Pelletman
Pelletman

This is to show how the Chiefs aren’t the only team in free agency to give record deals. Legal tampering has been open for 10 minutes and…

ta2tony21

Are we really to the point we have to use Raiders contracts to make us feel better about our own?

Tarkus

The guaranteed money is all in the first two years. So it’s essentially a 2 year $18M/year deal! No dead money after that, but man, that’s a lot of scratch for an OT.

probablyamistake
probablyamistake

Let’s see, our offense is the best in the league, our defense is our weakness. I know, let’s release the best player we have on defense. That’ll fix the problem!!!!!

ta2tony21

It was probably a mistake.

chief_curmudgeon
chief_curmudgeon

Houston wasn’t a good fit for what Spags has traditionally wanted to do. Houston is a good player and we certainly aren’t better for a talent standpoint without him. But I think this was a long game move, rather than a 2019 talent acquisition move.

probablyamistake
probablyamistake

If Spags can’t utilize a talent like JH50, he isn’t an upgrade from Bob

chief_curmudgeon
chief_curmudgeon

That’s just silly.

Pelletman
Pelletman

Come on man… you can see the problem with this. I know it.

DenverDonkeyHater
DenverDonkeyHater

That if Houston was the the best player on this defense that our defense was fucked?

(Chris Jones was the best player on this defense anyway)

ta2tony21

So Veach will trade him next?

Leaf
Leaf

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ta2tony21

If Spags leads the defense to a bottom 5 ranking this year, fans are going to lose their shit.

zulu trader
zulu trader

Bob Sutton for President! We should have never lost Bob Sutton, big mistake!

Leaf
Leaf

I love how a week ago we (the general majority not you specifically) were all taking about how it was time to move on from Houston. Now that it’s happened, everyone is losing their shit.

starry1
starry1

I’m so hurt about this.

BuckeyeMike
BuckeyeMike

Keep
Getting younger on defense with a manageable cap players who perform

Leaf
Leaf

Considering how bad the defense was, a compete rebuild isn’t that crazy of an idea. And at Houston’s age, you don’t really rebuild around him. The only real must keep player on defense is Jones. Everyone else is expendable.

probablyamistake
probablyamistake

The only reason you do a complete rebuild on either side of the ball is because you don’t have a shot. We have a shot right now. Veach needs to make some significant decisions right now, or he’s the one that’s expendable.

Leaf
Leaf

In most cases I would agree. But we literally can’t get any worse on defense with a compete rebuild. So the sooner we start it the better.

probablyamistake
probablyamistake

My problem is that we are blowing up the only bright spot on our defense. We had the best pass rush in the league. Just having a hard time buying into what they’re doing. Of course I remember having a conversation with you about when to make the switch from Alex to Patrick. I thought they should take their time, no hurry, get it right. You said we should do it ASAP, take advantage of Patrick’s rookie contract. We know how that turned out, so you might be right about this too.

Denmeister
Denmeister

So a hothead potential HOF WR gets traded for a 3rd an 5th round pick.
Does this make the Marcus Peters trade look not so bad for Veach?

KC_SunDevil
KC_SunDevil

If you ignore the salary

Tarkus

Considering Brown is 31 and just got $50M guaranteed, and Peters still had two years left on his rookie deal, no.

Pelletman
Pelletman

No factor in everything else….and then yes.

Tarkus

*$30M (but the point stands)

Leaf
Leaf

While I agree with you point, you also have to consider that Brown has had many more years of proven success. At the time of the peters trade, he had two really good years and one meh. A very good player that should excite anyone, but Brown has consistently put up elite season after elite season. That makes the money difference a little easier to swallow.

BuckeyeMike
BuckeyeMike

Going to be interesting to see what peters gets paid soon

ta2tony21

Didn’t really think much on it yesterday, but scrolling through the Tweeties this morning, I’m apparently a little more affected, personally, by the release of Houston.

I’m thinking Ford will be traded for whatever the best offer we get. Likely a 2nd. If it was purely about creating cap space, we would have had more if we kept JH and traded Ford. This feels like a wholesale rebuild on defense. Clear cap, collect draft picks, sign and draft your own players; Spags is making sure his thumbprints are all over this defense.

chief_curmudgeon
chief_curmudgeon

Ford is potentially a better fit on Spags defense and we can get a high comp by letting Ford walk after next season.
So it doesn’t necessarily guarantee Ford is gone now.

ta2tony21

You “might” get a high comp pick…at the end of the 3rd round. But that is not guaranteed. Sign one decent priced FA that year and we get nothing.

The other drawback is you don’t get that pick for two whole years from now, so a 3rd in two years is essentially worth a 5th this year. Suddenly it doesn’t seem so attractive of an option.

I’d prefer the 2nd rounder this year, when we have the need to bring in a lot of players for a new system.

chief_curmudgeon
chief_curmudgeon

Without a doubt, I’d rather have the 2nd now. But if the only deal on the table is a 3rd and swap of 5ths, I’ll take my ball and go home.

ta2tony21

I’d take the 3rd tbh

Mitko
Mitko

I wonder what time the first deal gets announced. Since we are now in he legally tampering stage and I’m sure teams have been talking for at least a week

KCChef
KCChef

UMmmmm … Is This Thing Broken ? … I Keep Refreshing & There’s No “Landon Collins Signs W/ The Chiefs ” Notifications … : )

ElPasoJason
ElPasoJason

Don’t worry, friend. Free agency opens on Wednesday, Chiefs are obviously waiting to surprise everyone at that time, haha!

ta2tony21

Legal tampering begins at 11am

EAFOX
EAFOX

Chiefs needs in no particular order – a center, pass rushing defensive end (especially if Ford is traded), a SAM linebacker, a third corner, and a safety (could use both a strong and free safety) and we have four picks in the first three rounds. Five major needs with four picks. To me, this means that either we believe in someone on the roster – Reiter at center perhaps – or plan to fill one of the needs in FA. What if a good player at a position without a huge need falls to us – perhaps T J Hockenson at TE. Taking that player leaves a hole somewhere on the team.

go_saleaumua
go_saleaumua

Center? I doubt it, not until later in the draft. They’ll ride with Reiter and/or DeVey.

SAM, CB. S — correct, these will be filled with a mix of current players, FA’s, & draft picks.

No team is hole-less going into any NFL season. None.

EAFOX
EAFOX

I am not against Reiter playing center nor am I enthused about the prospect that our most important position on the line has a limited ceiling. Andy loves his lineman and would not be surprised to see them draft one in the first two rounds – Bradbury seems to be the hot name now.

go_saleaumua
go_saleaumua

“nor am I enthused about the prospect that our most important position on the line has a limited ceiling”

…..Maaaaaan, we Chiefs fans have been spoiled when it comes to Centers. Grunny, Weigs, Hudson, Morse…..Aside from a few rough years (’09, ’10) we have had high level play in the pivot for some time.

Most teams live like this, some unknown comes in and is developed into the position.

I feel OK to good about Reiter and DeVey; we’ve seen a lot of Tuba over the last three years and I think Reiter had some strong moments (and some teachable ones) in his time last fall. I’m not thinking we splurge on a C in the first 90 picks….Maybe we do. I’m kind of a line guy, so I wouldn’t mind it. But I guess I’m not nearly as worried about it.

ElPasoJason
ElPasoJason

If we were going to invest in OL, now is the time to do it I think. I’m also not convinced we have to, but I also would be fine with it if thwy found a bad ass at one of our picks.

Protect PM2 at all costs!

EAFOX
EAFOX

Does not matter what we think. The question is what do the Chiefs really think about Reiter becoming the man at center.

go_saleaumua
go_saleaumua

Truth

KCChef
KCChef

The “Eye Test” Says Reiter Played Well … The Metrics ( PFF ? ) Not So Much IIRC …

go_saleaumua
go_saleaumua

First time starting since he hurt his knee, so, I wasn’t too shocked that there were high and low notes.

Also, I read the report Seth did on Reiter’s performance at The Athletic and I was amused to see Keysor suggest we were somewhat LOSING mobility, agility, and athleticism by going from Morse to Reiter. (Athleticism and movement were regarded as Reiter’s STRENGTHS coming out of South Florida!).

It just reinforces a) that Morse is an unusually athletic man, b) we were lucky to get good years out of him, concussions and all and c) lucky that a guy with remotely similar metrics was available & able to develop here for a year.

EAFOX
EAFOX

The Chiefs plan might very well be to roll with Reiter. In my ideal world, McKenzie becomes our dominant center with Wylie and LDT at the guard positions. Erving becomes a backup. McKenzie’s size plugs up the giant hole of pass rushers coming up the middle. We give up athleticism for some strength. Not Andy’s typical plan however.

go_saleaumua
go_saleaumua

Actually, I think that plan’s kind of sexy. (But again, I’m a line guy).

I’m 100% for it… when I get a free moment I’m going to take a look at Mckenzie’s combine profile, see how he did in the short shuttle, that sort of thing. He might be more agile and mobile than we are giving him credit for.

ta2tony21

Uh oh…Sal’s feelin’ randy!

backbone313
backbone313

Along the OL, I prefer to sign FA who need to refine their skills, not develop.

The Reiters of the world. NFL experience, not given enough time with his last team, has had a couple offseasons to learn to be a professional. Teams are drafting OL, but are not letting them the time necessary to adjust to the next level.

You can’t believe your OL coach can develop draft picks but not FA scraps. The scrap heaps of the league are fighting and scrapping to make the team. Bring in 15-17 OL and let them battle.

LDT developed from the draft, McKenzie has that spot now. I just don’t see Center as big of a need as others.

ta2tony21

I’d re-sign Devey as insurance at C on a 1-2 year deal.

chief_curmudgeon
chief_curmudgeon

I think they are good with Reiter and Devey at C.
SAM is probably way low on the priority list. Spags usually gets these guys on the cheap.
CB and S have to be 1 and 2. Slot WR could be #3. A 2nd TE could be up there as well, but we seemed to play less 12 personnel with Mahomes than AS11.

SCKSChief
SCKSChief

One thing I think we, as fans, are neglecting is that the scheme switch will change expectations for the DL/Defense as a whole. No longer will the scheme be reliant upon two OLB/EDGE types to generate the pressures and sacks. Now, all of the positions will be tasked with rushing the passer and generating those sacks/pressures. This is different than in years past. Ford and Houston really do not fit the DE mold in the 4-3 and I don’t think Houston is athletic enough to fulfill the role of SAM consistently. Ford is likely too small and too weak against the run to be counted on in this role as well. The responsibilities of the DL are changing and it will be a unit that will combine to rush the passer not just two guys.

Btw, before I get skewered, yes I understand Chris Jones was more than just a contributor this season. At the 3-tech, he has a great opportunity to really mess up some offensive game plans next season.

backbone313
backbone313

The best thing about Dee #tooweak Ford playing any OLD role… keeps his ass away from putting his hands in the dirt lining up offsides costing the Chiefs playing in the Superb Owl.

ta2tony21

If Ford gets traded, I don’t see a “unit that will combine to rush the passer”. I see Chris Jones and a bunch of JAGs (until proven otherwise). Obviously a lot will (should) change through FA and the draft, but as of now I’m not seeing the makings of a strength at DL.

Maslowskis Barber
Maslowskis Barber

This^^^ Chris Jones and…..who else on the line?….Ndadi… Speaks and KPass are huge Question marks moving forward.

backbone313
backbone313

but about how much cash/Cap that clears for team.

$4 mil to sign draft class

$10 mil to take into the season

Splitting-ish the $14 mil Cap savings up

NOT Free Agent spending spree

KCChef
KCChef

Unless you Pick Up your Working Capital w/ Other Cuts … : )

backbone313
backbone313

Like trading offsides Ford…

ElPasoJason
ElPasoJason

Except that with the Houston cut we have $22 Mil in cap space … $8Mil FA spending spree is ON!

SCKSChief
SCKSChief

I love how suddenly the Raiders can spend money. Last season they dumped Mack and Cooper because they couldn’t pay them and now they give AB a stupid deal and are supposedly in on Le’Veon. LOL

Wow.

go_saleaumua
go_saleaumua

And they’re geniuses for it! “mayock….a vet GM”

/shakes head

AB to the Raiders could work, but Carr needs to get a lot mentally tougher and/or they need to figure out how to weed out dysfunction, otherwise they’re looking hard at 6-10 or 7-9.

SCKSChief
SCKSChief

I just look at how good Cooper was with Dak vs Carr. It was night and day. I think Carr is Oakland’s Rapelisberger…drama queen who is ruining the team.

EAFOX
EAFOX

Carr can only wish he was like Big Ben. I know that you are referring to the drama but you needed to find a less skilled quarterback. The Raiders better sign LeVeon Bell to try and keep Carr protected with a weaker offensive line. Carr is a crybaby and soft. Raiders could even go 10-6 with Brown and Bell but Carr will never take them to the promised land.

go_saleaumua
go_saleaumua

I literally have higher expectations for DEN, who’s rebuilding but not rebuilding, than OAK. I think Vic’s the best coach they’ve had since Kubes (may prove to be better?) and Flacco ‘s definitely mentally tougher than Carr.

I still see them as a mid-tier team too, though. Their secondary is garbage. They’re letting starters go and turning former Top 90 cornerback selections into wideouts.

EAFOX
EAFOX

Flacco is a small upgrade over Keenum. He did get benched on a much better overall team in the Ravens for a quarterback who can not throw. The Broncos best weapon – Von Miller – is at his best when his team has the lead. I see 8-8 as about the best that they can expect and that is only if their running game is respectable throughout the season.

go_saleaumua
go_saleaumua

Yup. Third in the division, 8-8.

ta2tony21

Feels about right.

Pelletman
Pelletman

The Ravens opted to go for a Running Back at QB over Flacco.

KCChef
KCChef

Methinks The Carr Family Crest Is A Chicken Rampant On A Yellow Field . : )

go_saleaumua
go_saleaumua

He’s gotta toughen up between the ears, or else AB will turn on him and that team’s season is toast. That’s a lot of what if’s.

6-10.

backbone313
backbone313

David Carr = the next Alex Smith

Fans wanting to believe he is better then the eye ball tells ya.

ta2tony21

Thats actually not a fair comparison to Alex.

Brylowman
Brylowman

What does David Carr have to do with this? All he is now is a big Raiders fan rooting for his brother Derek.

ta2tony21

Even aside from the “get me the ball” antics (that WILL happen) my biggest curiosity is how AB will respond to losing a lot of games for the first time really in his NFL career. The worst record he’s experienced is 8-8 thus far.

ElPasoJason
ElPasoJason

I don’t like it. I understand it but I don’t like it. Now I don’t want to trade Ford. I knew it had to be one or the other. I guess I was just hoping we woukd get some good trade value out of Houston.

Hope the best for Justin against everyone except us.

Now better make a big splash Veach. I don’t see how we needed Houston’s money just to pay CJ and Hill.

ElPasoJason
ElPasoJason

Worst part about this is losing a great pass rusher.

Second worst part is that stupid ass, shot in the dsrk, hawt taek from that idiot now was proven true.

These stuoid bloggers will be even more emboldened to throw out any “what if” their brains can muster and pass it odf as news.

SCKSChief
SCKSChief

I think you’re just going to have to accept the fact that neither Houston, Ford, or Berry are likely with this team in a few days.

KC_SunDevil
KC_SunDevil

Jury’s still out on Ford. But he’s a one year bridge even if he does stay

ta2tony21

If there’s no intent to sign him long term he absolutely SHOULD be traded. If the Chiefs can get a 2nd they should jump on it to have for this years draft stacked with defensive talent in the first 2-3 rounds. With the new scheme we need those picks now for the long term good.

Otherwise at best your hoping for a 3rd comp pick in TWO years (2021)…and 1 FA signing could eliminate that and we’d get nothing.

A 2021 3rd comp pick is essentially worth a 5th round pick this year. Getting a 2nd is a big win long term IMO. Even a high 3rd should be considered.

go_saleaumua
go_saleaumua

If I were Veach, I’d be hyping the GB connection….Ford’s fave EDGE coach is there, the antiquated scheme he thrived in (double digit sacks in ’16 and ’18) is there….and Gute, the Pack’s Veach (newly promoted boy wonder GM) sounds like he too is willing to spend money.

MMM. Dee, Packerland. Seems like a match in heaven….

If he stays here he’d be “ok” as a LEO or a wide-9 type end, but he’d still get blown off the ball v/s the run and may wear down quickly. I just feel like a move to GB is best for all sides.

ta2tony21

I completely overlooked his coach being in GB now. That very well could be why they want him.

backbone313
backbone313

2018 draft had 5 DL selected in the 1st round.

2019 draft has mocks of 8+ DL in the 1st round, some with 4 in the top 10.

8/32 teams taking DL = plenty of the other prospects falling to the Chiefs.

With the trade of Ford, that gives you 4 in the 1st two rounds. Plus the $15 mil Cap hold.

People have been screaming for the D to be remade, remake the D without Ford who does not have a slam dunk position in the 4-3.

ElPasoJason
ElPasoJason

All these are fair arguments. I guess I’m being a little sentimental. I’m definitely on board with trading him if he isn’t the long term answer.

With $22 Mil and potentially $37 Mil after trade of Ford, whats the play. Are we going to look to get something out of FA. We definitely need to get younger (and hopefully cheaper) on defense. But I am going to doubke down on wanting Collins and Ramsey here.

Everyone seems to think we cut EB post 6/1 but overthecap shows about a mil in savings this year? To be fair, I’m not sure I am cleae on hownrhat calculator works. At that savings wouldn’t it be better to just keepnhim this year and cut him next?

Ford for GBs 30th would be bad ass though.

ta2tony21

I think Ford’s best fit is the SAM backer. And that very reason is why you trade him. You don’t pay a 4-3 SAM $15mil.

KC_SunDevil
KC_SunDevil

Sad, but not unexpected. Would have rather seen Berry cut

I don’t bemoan the contracts, sometimes it’s time to fish and sometimes it’s time to cut bait. When signed it was time to fish. Now the fish is going bad and it’s time to make chum.

I wish nothing but the best for the players, but it’s about the team, for now and for the future

Mitko
Mitko

I keep hearing everyone say how bad Houston has become, but that’s just not true. He’s had 9 plus sacks the last 2 years. And was graded top 15. He’s actually been improving since is injury.
Now is his production worth 21 mil? No, but that’s the wrong way to look at it. 7 mil of that is gone no matter what. So is his production worth the 14 mil they saved? Close to it. Maybe they can find a player with his production for a few mil less in FA.

backbone313
backbone313

It’s now a hope. Hope the Chiefs/sign a player who plays/develop into a player who grades out to 85% + this season/next.

Houston is not a day to day Hali end of career cut.

Sidenote- James Harrison played until he was 36. Houston was just cut at age 30.

go_saleaumua
go_saleaumua

You’re right, but 50 has a lot of miles on those ACL’s. Started from day one, too. Meanwhile Harrison didn’t become starter until he was 27, 28 years old, which means fewer hard reps.

#context

Still sucks to see him go, I agree.

EAFOX
EAFOX

Houston is still a solid player and pass rusher but not the dominant one that we spent millions on.

go_saleaumua
go_saleaumua

Yup.

Wonder what deal he sees on the open market – 8-11 mil/season for three yrs maybe? Third year voidable?

backbone313
backbone313

Oh context, ok.

Harrison, as noted above played until he was 38. 10 years as a starter. And most believed he had another year in him. You don’t find many 38 year old OLB around.

Houston is 30. 10 years as a starter would have been, what, the end of his contract?

Like the tweet above, it’s not like Houston is heading to a retirement home.

It’s all about the cap.

go_saleaumua
go_saleaumua

Think you and I are saying the same thing about 50, Hoss. He’s due to make 8-12 mil/yr (perhaps more?) as someone’s two to three year EDGE piece.

I think Deebo is a freak, a self-made man who didn’t begin starting until his mid to late 20’s and spent his last four or five seasons as a part-time starter or pass rush specialist. I’m not taking anything away from him, just being….factual?

Anyone who can play EDGE in the NFL for that long (think Tambahawk) is doing something right.

So….where are we disagreeing again? Outside of me pointing out Fitty’s heavy lifting from Day One versus Deebo’s growing into his body/game, and what that might mean in 16-18 months for Fitty’s knees.

Help me.

backbone313
backbone313

Your #

Came across as though Houston is about to fall off a cliff on the field. Harrison was a freak. Became bigger, stronger as his years piled on his hard reps into his late 30s.

Houston is a freak. Just feel his play will hold up longer then his hard reps would with say Ford.

go_saleaumua
go_saleaumua

My hash was in regards to using Deebo as your example.

As someone who has been a big fan of Houston’s for several years, I would like to believe that youre correct… Only time will tell.

Tyrone
Tyrone

Harrison played until 38

go_saleaumua
go_saleaumua

Correct…as a part time player his last several seasons.

He was a full time starting OLB for about six years.

Still a beast – a self-made man, to be sure.

ta2tony21

Freeney? Peppers?