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Kansas City Chiefs’ 2019 free-agent signings: RB Hyde set to join | ESPN

Hyde may fill the RB2 spot occupied at the end of last season by Spencer Ware, who is headed to free agency. But he could eventually claim a significant amount of playing time from Damien Williams, who for now at least is the Chiefs’ featured back. Hyde, at 235 pounds is a big, versatile back of the type favored by general manager Brett Veach. “We certainly like bigger backs,” Veach said at the NFL combine. “I kind of have a thing for 220-pound backs that can run and catch and block.” The Chiefs could also draft a back, although it’s not the necessity it was before the Hyde signing

RB Carlos Hyde Agrees to One-Year, $2.8 Million Deal with Chiefs | Sports Illustrated

The 28-year-old Ohio State product is a veteran of five seasons. Hyde was taken by the 49ers in the second round of the 2014 NFL draft and spent his first four seasons in San Francisco. After starting the 2018 season in Cleveland on a three-year deal, the Browns sent Hyde to Jacksonville for a fifth-round pick in October.

Packers, 49ers express interest in Chiefs LB Dee Ford | NFL

Two NFC rivals, the Green Bay Packers and San Francisco 49ers, have expressed interest in acquiring Ford, a source told NFL Network Insider Ian Rapoport on Saturday.

Ford is slated to make around $15.4 million on the tag in 2019, a price tag that the 
Packers ($36 million in cap space) and 49ers ($66.7 million) are clearly both willing and able to pay, at least for this season.

Chiefs HC Andy Reid receives Maxwell Football Club’s ‘Greasy’ Neale Award | Chiefs Wire

Reid was chosen for this year’s award largely because of the breakout season of superstar QB Patrick Mahomes. No one expected Mahomes to come in and light the league on fire in the way that he did. Reid did a heck of a job coaching up the first-year starter. Reid also rallied one of the NFL’s most electrifying offenses around Mahomes.

NFL 101 Awards: Patrick Mahomes, Clark Hunt headline Chiefs-centric evening in KC | The Kansas City Star

As Mahomes stood in a corner talking to local media after accepting the AFC Offensive Player of the Year Award, a long line of people formed in front of the quarterback. Only a few were able to snap photos before Mahomes had to return to his spot on the dais to give his second acceptance speech of the night, this one for the team MVP Award named in honor of Derrick Thomas. It’s that community and support, Mahomes said in his acceptance speeches, that makes Kansas City so endearing.

“It is a tremendous honor, a tremendous honor to get this award, to be a part of this community,” Mahomes said. “That’s the biggest thing I’ve learned in my short amount of time here so far. It’s that this community is special and hopefully I’ll be a part of it for a long time and hopefully we have a lot of success on the football field as well.”

Austin Reiter film review: Can he ably start at center if Mitch Morse doesn’t return? | The Athletic

Unfortunately, the differences between Reiter and Morse don’t end with their strength. Reiter is significantly less athletic than Morse, which shows up on multiple occasions in the run game when he’s asked to get to the second level or pull laterally toward the sideline. He would often end up a few yards short of where Morse would get to on a similar play, which can be the difference between a clean block and a free defender.

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Bridge to AAF games Open Thread:

Mid-Day Thread Ft. THE SPOKEN

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BigRed
BigRed

This is still my favorite tweet. We FINALLY have the QB that a lot of free agents are going to want to come play with. For years to come. It’s a great time to be a Chiefs fan.

Carlos Hyde does what many free agents will probably do for the next 10 years… sign quickly and easy contract to play with Patrick Mahomes

— Jay Glazer (@JayGlazer) March 9, 2019

wustl_chiefs_fan

I don’t understand Ledyard’s tweet. Brown was the biggest winner in this whole thing. By being a drama queen and forcing his way out he got more guaranteed money and more money overall.

workingmansdead

He wrote that assuming that Brown is concerned with winning, which does not look to be true. Brown is very concerned with his own stats though, which will decrease with Carr throwing to him. But I agree, I don’t think he cares more about his stats than he does $30M.

upamtn

at least we can always count on the Raiders to do Raiders things …

BigBill
BigBill

Hopefully Veach is “concerned” enough by AB going to Oakland that he builds a secondary capable beating good offenses like NO.

BigRed
BigRed

I am not the least bit concerned with AB on the Raiders.

MidKan Chiefs Lifer
MidKan Chiefs Lifer

Saints are a little better at signing safety/ stand out special teams players than KC. That’s almost exactly what Sorenson was a few years ago and we paid a lot more for him when the cap was a lot lower.

BoJest
BoJest

There’s a lot of talk about Bell possibly going to the Raiders. Brown doesn’t worry me because I don’t think Carr can get him the ball all that often. Bell on the other hand is a whole different story. He plays well into the pass and run. Hate to face him twice a year.

workingmansdead

Really dumb move for the Raiders. I’m totally in favor of it.

CHIEFSandSABRES

AB can’t stay out of trouble. Think him and Vegas are going to be a good combo? Gruden and his 10 year contract might get cut short due to this dude. He’s going to cause so much crap there, and I’m going to love every minute of it.
Plus some articles are whiny that the Steelers got fleeced with only getting a 3rd and 5th rounded for him, I’d say that $21 million against the cap is what fleeced them. The quicker they keep falling the more I’ll revel in delight!

slackator
slackator

All these tweets and the one with the biggest impact in my opinion was the easily overlooked one about the Chargers finally releasing Addae. Its about time and hopefully that walking cte is out of the league for good.

As for the big story of the day AB in Oakland, I for one am not worried because unless they draft and develop a QB he’s going to be a nonfactor on the field and a cancer in the locker room

dave9600
dave9600

People keep telling me Carr led the league in completion percentage and something about a streak where he didn’t throw an interception for a really long time… take a look at his passing chart from last year. He hardly ever throws the ball more than 10 yards and most of his passes are within 5 yards of the LoS…. and a lot of those are behind the LoS. He also had one of the worst percentages of passes thrown into “tight windows”.

He’s an overpaid bum.

ElPasoJason
ElPasoJason

Yeah, fuck that guy. I hope he retires … the league will only get healthier overall.

gonzangkc11
gonzangkc11

Antonio Brown
Is DAVID CARR still raiders qb?

All is well for the entire afc

EAFOX
EAFOX

Who do we have the most and least amount of confidence in with our new defense?

1) Breeland Speaks – appears to be expected to provide some muscle in shutting down the running game at DE.
2) KPASS – a possible candidate for our pass rushing DE if Dee Ford is traded.
3) Anthony Hitchens – our new MIKE linebacker – will the change in systems prove he was worth the money.
4) DOD – our new WILL linebacker – took forever to get him on the field with Sutton.
5) Armani Watts – was pushing for starting time before his injury so does he emerge as a starter now.
6) Eric Berry – the most talented player here and I do not need to remind us about his heel.

The other starters appear to be Nnadi, Chris Jones, Ward, and Fuller. Big question is who becomes the SAM linebacker if Houston is cut and the secondary question iswho becomes the favorite for third corner.

Tyrone
Tyrone

Least: Berry. Zero confidence he can stay on the field.

Leaf
Leaf

More like zero he can get on it. It’s not so much that he attracts injuries once he’s on the field so much as it is his current injury is preventing him from getting on it.

KC_SunDevil
KC_SunDevil

Numbers 2 and 6. No confidence. None.

Number 3. More Hope than confidence.

And we desperately need an outside corner. Fuller is the perfect slot corner but out of his game on the outside

EAFOX
EAFOX

I am of the opinion that KPASS could be the breakout player here – great athleticism that needs some coaches to believe in his ability. Worried about Speaks being able to be physical enough. Agree with hope about Hitch. Think DOD will be a star. Watts is an unknown to me and, if I were the Chiefs, I would make a depth chart without thinking about Berry.

backbone313
backbone313

Least- Watts. He had a veteran NFL player holding his hand during preseason PRACTICE to just get him lined up right. Who has ever seen or read of any other player having needed that.

Most- DID. You can’t teach speed.

KCChef
KCChef

How can everybody be on the “Speaks Train” ? … He’s prolly the guy I have the Least Confidence in … He’s Shown 0 Growth, Speed or Motivation IMHO … : (

BuckeyeMike
BuckeyeMike

He was growing as a player throughout the year when there were injuries. He started poorly but I def saw progress of him growing as a player. Let’s see him in an nfl weight room and trim down. Also
how do you know he has zero motivation?

Leaf
Leaf

We don’t want him to trim down if he’s going to be our SDE.

Leaf
Leaf

Little to no growth for a defensive lineman in their first year isn’t unheard of. In fact it’s fairly common. Plus he was playing a new position last year and it’s not like he didn’t show flashes of decent play. I wouldn’t say I’m confident in him as a player, but I’m not paranoid he’s going to be a fuck up either.

CHIEFSandSABRES

2,3 and 6 zero confidence

sydenham
sydenham

DOD is the only clear yes, Speaks leans to a yes. Berry, well who knows, I think it’s time to prepare for life after him because of his contract.

Mattl
Mattl

I have a feeling our defense could look totally different if Hitchens feels at home in his return to a 4-3 AND O’Daniel continues to fulfill the potential he showed in his limited snaps last year.

EAFOX
EAFOX

Beating the Raiders will be much more fun watching Gruden, Carr, and now Brown, pouting on the sideline.

Warpath
Warpath

Yes, and the tantrums, I can’t wait for the tantrums.

MidKan Chiefs Lifer
MidKan Chiefs Lifer

Just wait for Gruden to jump him once and he will flip the hell out and throw a damn tantrum until he is traded. Proof see what happened in Pittsburgh.

dave9600
dave9600

How is AB going to react with Carr dumping it off to the TE or RB all game?

EAFOX
EAFOX

Exactly, and that is assuming that Carr is still there and not replaced by a rookie. Gruden runs a very conservative offense compared to most of the NFL. Who receives more wrath – Carr or Gruden?

Mattl
Mattl

It makes you wonder if there’s some truth to the “Gruden wants Brown, Bell and a trade up for Kyler Murray” rumors.

KC_SunDevil
KC_SunDevil

AB to the Raiders. It’s so perfect. Dysfunction City

EAFOX
EAFOX

I expect them to make a push for LeVeon Bell now and try to become the West Coast Steelers. All will be well if they are winning but, once they lose some games, I expect everything to fall apart. Big Ben might be a dick head but he is a far superior quarterback than Carr will ever be. Big Ben could extend a play forever and was willing to take the hits to get the ball down the field to Brown. The Steelers always had a decent cast of other receivers around. Once Carr is bounced from the roster, the Raiders need to find the right quarterback – maybe they can get Elway’s advice. Even then, the new kid will not be the unquestioned leader. Can you imagine Brown being okay with a rookie telling him what to do? Mahomes made the transition to leader – not many young quarterbacks can do that as quick as he did.

NovaChiefs
NovaChiefs

Agree with everything except that Ben “might” be a dick. I think that’s a given, at this point.

Savagerider
Savagerider

I think this plus all their draft picks next 2 years plus being in vegas is gonna make raiders scary. Being in vegas will bring free agents there due to no tax, having a dome, and all the casinos and such. Raiders could get scary quick

EAFOX
EAFOX

The Raiders may amass some talent and will get better simply because it would be very difficult for them to get worse. On the other hand, who is their unquestioned leader to becoming a consistent threat in the AFC West. Brown is an undeniable talent but we saw how few teams really wanted him – a third and a fifth round pick speaks volumes. He is a selfish player who is all about the money. Carr had developed the reputation of being a crybaby and has the Alex Smith tendency of getting rid of the ball quickly but without any of Alex’s toughness to go along with that. Who else do the Raiders have that could be counted on as a leader? Morale on the team has to be low as Gruden has destroyed their roster.

KC_SunDevil
KC_SunDevil

I was waiting for someone to mention the crying thing. IMHO a player who cries on the field has almost no adrenaline running through his system and as such makes for a lousy leader. Especially when there’s no confidence either.

Having said that, with their O-line, if they add Bell and draft Murray, this could be a scary offense. But not until Carr is off the field.

dave9600
dave9600

Their OL isn’t as good as it was in 2016.

KC_SunDevil
KC_SunDevil

True, it’s not all-world. But with Bell they can keep a QB clean.

EAFOX
EAFOX

I think Bell would help their offense much more than Brown.

EAFOX
EAFOX

Several NFL players have cried – adrenaline and such – but Carr comes off as being soft. Worst thing to be in a football locker room.

Leaf
Leaf

Vegas is an alright city to visit for a day or two. It sucks to live there. Casinos are their only draw and that gets old very quickly.

Tarkus

Having grown up in Vegas, I disagree with the notion that it sucks to live there. Other than the Summer heat.

4everLurkin
4everLurkin

Kidding? Try some humidity

Tarkus

You’re saying it sucks to live there because of the humidity?

Oh, do tell.

4everLurkin
4everLurkin

I’m saying summer heat with no humidity (like you have there) is mild.

Tarkus

Only in the sense that a dry oven is mild.

Yes, it’s much better than heat with humidity, but it’s still brutal when it’s 110-120F. When you can literally burn your hand opening your car door, that’s not really mild.

4everLurkin
4everLurkin

Walked up and down the strip at 105 in 2008. Never broke a sweat, nor was even slightly uncomfortable

It’s mild compared to 90 and 95% humidity like what I grew up with is all I’m saying

Leaf
Leaf

105 isn’t too bad, but he is right once you get above 110 it’s not fun in the least. I lived in Phoenix for awhile and you get above 110 and that sun drains you of any energy in a heart beat. Plus surfaces are practically impossible to touch.

Tarkus

There’s also a difference between walking down the strip on vacation and literally living and working in it.

Leaf
Leaf

To each their own. My father in law lives in Vegas so I’m fairly familiar with the city outside of the strip. not saying I’m more so than someone like yourself who grew there, just that I’m not a complete noob. The glitz and glam of the strip gets old after a while, and there’s not a whole lot left that Vegas offers outside of that. But then again, I’m not a fan of any of the desert cities, so that could have something to do with it.

Tarkus

You have a huge lake and mountains surrounding the city (water skiing in the summer, snow skiing in the winter), if that’s your thing. What is it lacking that you find so important?

EAFOX
EAFOX

Is this the year that the Chiefs consider moving Cam Erving to center? Does Erving have the confidence now that he was lacking before to be a solid center? His previous play in Cleveland suggests this might be a bad idea but he had his first good year in the league last year. Wylie and LDT could be the starting guards. Without this move, does Wylie, our rookie of the year, go to the bench? Could Wylie step in as our starting center? Reiter was serviceable but is not the long term answer at center. Would a draft pick like Bradbury be able to come in and start right away? Would Morse give a home team discount to stay and would the Chiefs even want him? Is McKenzie ready to step up and be a part of the solution?

backbone313
backbone313

Erving finally looks like an NFL player so a move to Center is a no.

Center has to be the smartest player on the line.

EAFOX
EAFOX

Who would you start at guard – Erving or Wylie – assuming that LDT has his position back. Are you okay with Reiter at center or are you proposing to draft one?

KC_SunDevil
KC_SunDevil

Erving.

Wylie can go back to being interior OL depth

EAFOX
EAFOX

I would prefer Wylie. Erving is more versatile depth.

sydenham
sydenham

Centre and backup tackle are the areas of concern. LDT, Erving, Wylie and McKenzie are the guards. Ryan Hunter and Justin Senior and maybe Devey are behind Schwarz and Fish. There’s two guys kept on from the practise squad who are centers along with Morse or Reiter. To me, center is the PON on the line, assuming Morse is gone. I don’t think moving Erving to center is the answer. Backup/developmental tackle maybe in the later rounds or UDFA/FA a possibility too.