Hearing Footsteps: A Fanpost

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A FanPost By Falco

Hearing Footsteps: bE Broke, bE Bane, bE Baffling

So, news broke today that Eric Berry is NOT having off season surgery to fix the Haglund’s Deformity (Bone Spur) that caused him to miss virtually all of this past season. My first reaction was to want to burn my Berry Hoodie that poses as a jersey. My second reaction was Clark should sue him. I mean I was and still am royally pissed over this.

Now when Chiefs news breaks good or bad just about the first thing I do is text Bird. Well I tag him on the Myface, and then I text him. This was no different. My text to him was along the line of burning my hoodie. Bird’s first reply is they’re so cutting him.

Here I am trying to talk myself out of pouring the lighter fluid. I’m thinking along the lines of with all the dead money I’d just IR his ass. Trying to find a way to ease the cap hit besides the post June cut that just spreads the dead money out. I’m thinking what about Non-Football Injury PUP, anything, but Bird assured me there is no relief from this now crap sandwich of a contract.

I was all for paying Eric Berry. The last season he played (2016) he was the heart and soul of our defense, and he was top three at his position. The hold out was infuriating, but I felt he was vital to any defensive success we’d expect to have. Turns out after seeing the defense play two years without him, he was vital. Still better than paying Sean Smith. The contract was valid, the results and how it has played, or in Berry’s case not played, out are terribad.

The next stop was OverTheCap to see what the damage was going to be. With a post June designation, it leaves the Chiefs with $9.5m in savings this year. Having read this my thought was unless that $9.5m is the difference between a Superb Owl and not a Superb Owl I’d still think about IR’ing him and making him sit vs paying him to go away. My stubbornness and willingness to cut my nose off might be one of the reasons I’m not a team owner.

The flip side of the savings is still how much dead money is still hitting the Chiefs cap number. With the $9.5m in savings it’s still costing the team $6.95m in 2019 to free themselves of this bone spur. Over two years (19 & 20) it will cost them a total of $10.95m with a total savings of $19m. That is a $4m cap hit next year. (At least that is my understanding. I’m not the best Capologist)

All of this is spinning in my head with the idea that Eric is refusing to get the surgery that would fix the bone spur. The surgery that I felt he should have been having hours after the AFC Championship Game. This is when Bird floated to me that the Chiefs are probably trying to keep him from surgery. With the surgery he’d fail his physicals and they’d have to pay him and cutting him would save nothing. This only works if you assume that a repaired Eric isn’t worth having at his full $16.5m. Now I agree he’s probably not going to play well enough coming back to be “worth” $16.5m, but then the question is if a repaired Eric isn’t better than his replacement knowing you have to spend $6.95m (and a total of $10.95) for the privilege to replace him.

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upamtn

I dunno, I think I’d be cutting Berry and trading Houston … way way too much greens eaten up by those two

Kcrobwins
Kcrobwins

Impossible situation to weigh in imo. At some point you’ll base your stance on something the chiefs have put out about his injury or situation. Thats unreliable info at best.

Falco16
Falco16

Seems like it got for length I just can’t see how it can be allowed that a team could stop a player from having a surgery to correct a known medical issue that caused him to miss virtually a whole season. I’m guessing it’s a combination of the Chiefs are done with him and are fine with no surgery, and Eric obviously isn’t wanting the surgery. All of this is speculation because we are not on the inside. I didn’t see a transcript of what Andy had to say about it, but I heard him countless times in the past call Eric day-to-day. Without the surgery I figure the minute he tries to play football again he will go back to day-to-day.   In all of this I’m trying to figure out who to blame. I want to know who to direct my ire towards. Who to flame on Facespace. I’m angry and I feel betrayed. Now maybe that’s not fair since nothing has been done TO me, but we all know that’s not how fandom works. I’m pissed, and we all should be.    It sucks to see an arguably top three player at his position beat cancer like a boss to only to lose two whole seasons to what started as ruptured tendon. I don’t foresee him playing much more next year (if he gets picked up) than he did last year. I see this being a sad end to what at times was a magical career. Too bad Eric doesn’t see it this way or he’d just hang them up and save the Chiefs lots of money.    The real thing that is what is keeping me from really knowing who to blame is who exactly is making the decision at this point not to have had the surgery. I mean day after the playoffs had it. Then there is the issue of how much blame should go where? The med staff, the Team, Eric? I’m guessing all three get some. This issue is deeper than this singular revelation on 2/27 that there will be no surgery.… Read more »

venturachief
venturachief

It was Eric’s decision to not have surgery

Falco16
Falco16

Does he think he can see the field without it? He barely did in 18. Refusing to get right to be able to play is a joke IMO.

hmills110
hmills110

It was probably a pretty complicated calculation. Maybe he COULD play, but training camp/OTAs indicated it would get irritated by playing. A team that was able to get TO the tournament without him but wanted their best chance to advance, might look on him like their 2018-19 Percy Harvin. Somebody special they could roll out, late, for a nice bump on D in the postseason. I speculated on these lines, before, saying things like “If he’s got 2 games in him, I want them to be in the playoffs.” And that’s pretty much what transpired. When getting him back didn’t produce the WIN, that strategy failed, assuming against all reason that that was their strategy. I have nothing but respect for Eric Berry, but I can see the team wanting to move on, too. But I have a hard time imagining they’re going to in any way upgrade the hole left behind by Justin Houston. I’ll just have to wait and see what Spags does with them, next season. I do like the acquisition of Honey Badger. Hopefully it signals a higher blitz percentage from the D (mitigating the loss of Houston and Ford, with more aggressive and varied pressure schemes and stunts). I prefer the 5-man rush as the base threat, with an exceptional OLB pass rusher, especially if it incorporates DLs who can switch up and flash a jersey in short zone and maybe pick off an errant pass or two by POSITION and PRESSURE and SURPRISE and ALERTNESS, more than worrying about whether my LBs can play CB. I’d rather see a Lebeau-style attack scheme that schemes an unblocked pass rusher on an almost-every-down basis. When you get that, you’re not worried about a LB or CB or S sticking like glue the length or breadth of the field, and you can focus on disruption rather than 5 seconds of secondary ballet, with football players in tu-tu’s. Our D has been split-personality for most of its time since Gunther hit town. Bring pressure but because you’re short a man on the back end, you play PASSIVE on… Read more »

Tyrone
Tyrone

Very good post. Get cut the guy and get it over with (I know we have to wait until March 13ish)
I like the embedded OTC table

Falco16
Falco16

Thanks. I felt the embedded table was good. Glad Tats made the html code I sent work.

BDChiefsFan
BDChiefsFan

could it be that the Chiefs told him to NOT have the surgery until after new league year starts? then his contract isnt fully guaranteed. Berry is healthy, Chiefs cut him with a Post June 1 designation, Berry has surgery, gets his dead cap money, and looks for a new team once he is healed.

that or Chiefs are insane doing the same thing as last year and expecting different results.

BoJest
BoJest

Actually that is the same heel problem on the same heel he had in camp in 2017. If “rest” is the only thing that can help it then why didn’t it improve during that year off? Seemed to only get worse.

01lowbird

clearly he needs more rest.

BoJest
BoJest

Like 2019 and then retire?

01lowbird

Yes, after he gets another 16.5 million then he can comfortably retire

workingmansdead

Ought to be ready right before he needs a new gigantic contract, I’d think.

BoJest
BoJest

I honestly believe he is just trying to hang on for 2019 in hopes of getting a SB ring and will then retire. Also think the Chiefs think so much of him they will go along with that.

workingmansdead

Bless your heart.

BoJest
BoJest

FU…I know what that means hahahahaha

workingmansdead

😉

vvet818
vvet818

Day to day

BigBill
BigBill

I don’t understand why the Chiefs gave Berry such a rich contract (money and time) after coming off of a cancer diagnosis. Even with everything looking good on the surface with Berry; I find it difficult to believe that an aggressive chemo regimen didn’t have an effect on Berry’s achilles tear or heel problems. Surely someone had enough smarts to think “this guy was just put through bodily hell fighting cancer; there’s going to be some issues going forward. Eric isn’t going to be the same person he was a year before the diagnosis. So we should be careful with this contract” Dorsey screwed the pooch with this contract.

hmills110
hmills110

Dorsey generally drafted well, and S wasn’t a high-draft-pick proposition in his strategy. So, you pay. Paid too much? Probably. But if you’re managing the roster well, in general, paying a premium for a particular piece you’re not going to draft, especially a guy with intangibles up the ying-yang isn’t a mere dollars-and-cents proposition. There are some things Berry has always done better than other players.

But my take on the 2009-2010 roster was that IF you take a safety in the first (let alone with the 5th overall pick), he better be another Troy Polamalu, and Eric Berry was never that. He was phenomenal against the run and great in deep coverage, with his eyes front. But he was a liability covering TEs from in tight. And please don’t use stats to disprove this claim. Eye test is enough. When he flipped his hips, the back of his head was the perfect ball placement, and when he sneaked a peak, he lost contact with the WR/TE. If he had been the Shannon-Sharpe antidote he was billed as – one of the most striking weaknesses of KC coverage BEFORE he was drafted – he’d’ve been worth it. He was still a great football player, but not the guy who was going to reverse the passive tendencies that were eating those defenses alive.

Too bad Haley couldn’t see his way to using Pollard the way the Ravens did. Too bad Cunningham was such a pussy.

Druful
Druful

I don’t even begrudge him the money (mostly because it’s Clark’s, not mine), just frustrated that it really messes with the teams ability to fill his spot with any kind of quality player.

Tyrone
Tyrone

Fuck him

01lowbird

bold, be bold, be brav…. wait…

BigBill
BigBill

I agree with you Tyrone. This feel good story hasn’t helped us with a SB. Cut him and get a guy that will help us win.

Team Player
Team Player

At first I was afraid, I was petrified. Kept thinking we could never win without him on our side.

01lowbird

LOL well done

ArrowFan
ArrowFan

There is still a chance he comes back fully healthy next season and can play out the remainder of his contract 3 more seasons.

workingmansdead

lol

BoJest
BoJest

Berry hasn’t play 3 straight years without missing significant time.

Tyrone
Tyrone

Berry has had 3 seasons where his cap hit came out to $5,000,000 or more PER GAME

Brylowman
Brylowman

I wonder if Berry’s contract was a factor in the bottom falling out of the Safety market last year?

Dave

Someones in a good mood 😉